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Enneagram 8w7 & Enneagram 8w9

Discover the Wings of Type 8

What you will learn
Your wing adds an additional flavor to your personality. Every personality type of the Enneagram can have either one of the two types next to them as their wing.

For Eights this means that they can have a wing Seven (also known as Enneagram 8w7) or a wing Nine (Enneagram 8w9).

Below you find descriptions for each wing. We will explore how either wing can positively influence your main personality type as well as the specific challenges this combination brings with it. If you are new to wings and want to learn more about how they work, you can read our introduction to wings here.

Enneagram 8w7 in brief

Type Seven makes Eights more light-hearted and outgoing. Read the full description here.

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Enneagram 8w9 in brief

Type Nine makes Eights more relaxed and compassionate. Read the full description here.

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Enneagram 8w7 in Depth

What it's Like to Be an Enneagram Type 8 Wing 7

The main thing you notice about Eights with a Seven wing is that they are much more extroverted than their counterparts with a Nine wing. That big chunk of energy and assertiveness you associate with Eights? Combine that with an outgoing, fun and impulsive personality, and you get quite the supernova of energy that leaves behind lots of its guarded wariness in order to enjoy life to the fullest.

“Combine the Eight with the Seven’s outgoing, fun and impulsive personality, and you get quite the supernova of energy that likes to enjoy life to the fullest.”

The key motivation of Eights is acquiring, maintaining and projecting power, while the main interest of Sevens is incorporating new experiences into their life. So I guess that makes for – pardon the pun –, pretty powerful experiences Eights with a Seven wing are going for. With a kind of double dose of independence and the Sevens’ joy in risk taking, these Eights often thrive in entrepreneurial settings where they can combine their natural leadership skills with their strong visions.

Healthy and Unhealthy Enneagram 8w7s

Naturally, there’s also danger in throwing so much energy into one human being. If you look at the unhealthier sides of the coin of both types, they also reinforce each other – just not in such pretty ways. Take the natural bullishness of Eights, mix in the light-hearted carelessness of Sevens, and you can get people with an astoundingly small amount of compassion. Immature people of this type can become cruel, uncaring and oppressive, forcing other people to bow to their will and falling into rage when they feel threatened. At the bottom of the barrel, you get someone with the illusion of omnipotence who’s also a bit manic, and that’s actually dangerous.

But take it to the other end, the heights of maturity so to speak, and these Eights enjoy not only the best things in life, but help others to enjoy them too. With so much strength and vitality, the best work of these people can have lasting, sometimes even historical impacts. They’re truly not to be underestimated.

How to Know if you Are an Enneagram 8w7

I guess for this type-wing-combination it’s pretty obvious who falls into it and who doesn’t: If you feel the strong will of the Eight type dominating your personality, but you get as excited as Sevens about the best life has to offer – this is your spot.

Famous Enneagram 8w7s

Enneagram 8w9 in Depth

What it's Like to Be an Enneagram Type 8 Wing 9

If you put Eights and Nines next to each other, they look almost like complete opposites: the assertive, strong-willed, confrontational Eights on the one side, the quiet, peace-loving, conflict-avoiding Nines on the other. As a wing to the Eight type however, the Nine type mostly has a soothing effect on the aggressive and intense appearance of Eights. They become more measured, cooperative and often more family-oriented. Like a big bear: Snuggly towards their own kind, but still equipped with claws that they are more than willing to put to use when necessary.

Depending on how strong their Nine wing is, these Eights are more oriented towards people than towards experience, as it happens with a Seven wing. They become more accommodating of other people’s opinions, while still very capable of defending and asserting their own. In general there is less of an iron-fist and more a velvet-glove dynamic going on here. As good as they are at projecting power, they also have a gentler way of calm and reassuring leadership available to them.

“These Eights become more accommodating of other people’s opinions, while still very capable of defending and asserting their own. “

Healthy and Unhealthy Enneagram 8w9s

This split is often very sharp and goes along clearly defined lines: That usually means their calmer nature shows around their friends and family, while they turn on their aggressive mode at work. When veering into unhealthy levels, these two modes can even be used against people: Appearing calm and friendly at first, but with an explosive temper underneath that’s unpredictable. That’s the dark side of this coin. When you combine aggression with indifference, these types of Eights can develop a cold, depersonalized kind of violence. It’s by far not as destructive as the supercharged frenzy Eights with a Seven wing are capable of, but it can contain even less empathy and almost zero remorse, because this type barely has any anxieties.

Having no anxiety of course also enables this combination to go to the other extreme. Being healthy, they can develop a calm but no less invincible strength that they use to lift up and protect the people they love. There’s a wisdom available to them that can turn them into great and generous patriarchs and matriarchs, at ease with themselves, strong-willed yet mild-mannered.

How to Know if you Are an Enneagram 8w9

If you are aware of the powerful forces of the Eight personality coursing through you, but you often feel them being tempered and subdued, especially when you are around the people you love, this type-wing-combination might just describe you.

Famous Enneagram 8w9s

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1 year ago

I am most definitely an 8w7. And I can confirm that I am an absolutely firecracker of an energizer bunny! And although I have learned to somewhat temper that with w9 attributes, my default setting is “being extra”.

I am passionate, charismatic, curious, adventurous, highly energetic, strategic, intelligent, a word wizard and very persuasive. But I am also headstrong, impulsive, pragmatic, individualistic, sometimes detached and often a bulldozer. I am well aware that people tend to find me equal parts intriguing and overwhelming.

It is a constant balancing act of expressing myself authentically, pursuing my own growth and fulfillment, while also giving others the space to do the same. I very much believe that I am an inherently powerful and capable person. To me that also means that empowering others to be their best selves in no way deminishes me. Other stars aren’t competition for the sun, but together they make our whole universe brighter. You can be powerful AND uplift others, while being equally open their influence. And whenever I have embraced that mindset, beautiful things happen.

Amanda Moy
Amanda Moy
2 years ago

I feel like I totally fall into the 8w9 enneagram personality wing. I almost always feel like I have different modes when it comes to work me vs. personal life me. I feel like I bring a much higher energy and louder vibe so to speak at work than I do when I’m at home with my family. I almost feel like I can relax a little more and not be so assertive when I’m around people that I’m close to. Its my time to sort of recharge from having to be so “on” all the time in a professional setting.

2 years ago

After reading this, I immediately think of like a digital nomad personality type for 8w7s. that free spirit high energy mentality. I can see someone like that benefitting from like that very experience-based blogging or vlogging lifestyle. Very much having a life on display somewhere on Instagram. I feel like it’s such an exciting prospect but at the end of the day I wonder if people who operate like that think of sustainability in terms of life and career goals? I’m clearly showing my personality type here haha. I guess at times I can be a little envious of that free-spirited way of living.

2 years ago

I guess this is one of those scenarios where you can say “with great power comes great responsibility” having such a large personality can come with some pitfalls. The fact that 8w7s are so extroverted and bold balls of energy can lead to that supernova of a lack of empathy. I feel like these are the kinds of Jordan from Wolf of Wallstreet types. Extremely driven, entrepreneurs who will stop at nothing in the pursuit of something wild or a really notable accomplishment. I guess if you have this personality type it’s probably REALLY important to practice being mindful.

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